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		<title>Comment on Legal Aid Reform: Let’s be Civil by Morning round-up: Wednesday 15 May &#124; Legal Cheek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morning round-up: Wednesday 15 May &#124; Legal Cheek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 07:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Legal Aid Reform: Let’s be Civil by David Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/legal-aid-reform-lets-be-civil/#comment-5503</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Wolfe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 20:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard
I agree with all that. 

Let me add two more examples of likely unintended consequences:
1.	Putting lawyers ‘at risk’ pre-permission will (in a world where judges apply the permission test in a notably inconsistent way) encourage cases to be brought much earlier than now (so that any concession by the defendant then triggers an entitlement to ‘inter partes’ costs) and in that way discouraging attempts to settle claims without the need for JR proceedings, potentially leading to more not fewer claims (certainly in some areas of JR work).
2.	Borderline does not mean 50:50. It has a very specific meaning:
“borderline”, which means that the case is not “unclear” but that it is not possible, by reason of disputed law, fact or expert evidence, to—
(i)     decide that the chance of obtaining a successful outcome is 50% or more; or
(ii)     classify the prospects as poor [i.e. &lt;50%]&quot;
So many perfectly good (and important) JR claims (particularly those in new areas of law) are actually ‘borderline’. The result of removing ‘borderline’ cases will be (I predict) a dramatic increase in appeals to the Independent Funding Adjudicators and the Special Controls Review Committee; and in judicial reviews (which are necessarily held in secret) of their decisions.

And then two general concerns about the proposals:
1.	The proposed reduction in payment rates risks a dramatic inequality of arms between claimants and the many and varied defendant public authorities (which can decide who to instruct and what to pay them).
2.	Perhaps most fundamentally, these proposals are premised on a notion that judicial review is A BAD THING. Actually, judicial review – as a matter of practical reality not just a theoretical possibility – is vital to incentivising good public decision making well beyond the particular decisions which end up being challenged. The “Judge on Your Shoulder” (as described in the civil service training materials http://www.tsol.gov.uk/Publications/Scheme_Publications/judge.pdf) is a long-recognised and vital discipline to good decision-making by all public officials and bodies. That in turn surely contributes to (among other things) the wider economic wellbeing of the country (such as through encouraging international investment) which comes from operation of the rule of law.  It is perhaps surprising that a Government which might be expected to be naturally concerned to ensure that the state behaves lawfully should be contemplating dramatically undermining all that; and to save relatively tiny amounts of money.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard<br />
I agree with all that. </p>
<p>Let me add two more examples of likely unintended consequences:<br />
1.	Putting lawyers ‘at risk’ pre-permission will (in a world where judges apply the permission test in a notably inconsistent way) encourage cases to be brought much earlier than now (so that any concession by the defendant then triggers an entitlement to ‘inter partes’ costs) and in that way discouraging attempts to settle claims without the need for JR proceedings, potentially leading to more not fewer claims (certainly in some areas of JR work).<br />
2.	Borderline does not mean 50:50. It has a very specific meaning:<br />
“borderline”, which means that the case is not “unclear” but that it is not possible, by reason of disputed law, fact or expert evidence, to—<br />
(i)     decide that the chance of obtaining a successful outcome is 50% or more; or<br />
(ii)     classify the prospects as poor [i.e. &lt;50%]&quot;<br />
So many perfectly good (and important) JR claims (particularly those in new areas of law) are actually ‘borderline’. The result of removing ‘borderline’ cases will be (I predict) a dramatic increase in appeals to the Independent Funding Adjudicators and the Special Controls Review Committee; and in judicial reviews (which are necessarily held in secret) of their decisions.</p>
<p>And then two general concerns about the proposals:<br />
1.	The proposed reduction in payment rates risks a dramatic inequality of arms between claimants and the many and varied defendant public authorities (which can decide who to instruct and what to pay them).<br />
2.	Perhaps most fundamentally, these proposals are premised on a notion that judicial review is A BAD THING. Actually, judicial review – as a matter of practical reality not just a theoretical possibility – is vital to incentivising good public decision making well beyond the particular decisions which end up being challenged. The “Judge on Your Shoulder” (as described in the civil service training materials <a href="http://www.tsol.gov.uk/Publications/Scheme_Publications/judge.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.tsol.gov.uk/Publications/Scheme_Publications/judge.pdf</a>) is a long-recognised and vital discipline to good decision-making by all public officials and bodies. That in turn surely contributes to (among other things) the wider economic wellbeing of the country (such as through encouraging international investment) which comes from operation of the rule of law.  It is perhaps surprising that a Government which might be expected to be naturally concerned to ensure that the state behaves lawfully should be contemplating dramatically undermining all that; and to save relatively tiny amounts of money.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>Comment on Banking lawyers: agents of aggression and complexity? by Ethics and Risk: Behaviour management &#124; Ethics and Law</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/banking-lawyers-agents-of-aggression-and-complexity/#comment-5496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ethics and Risk: Behaviour management &#124; Ethics and Law]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 10:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] examples of potentially aberrant behaviour are revealed by (say) the hackings scandals or the travails of banks, we do not know how common ethical problems are. The issue of legal risk appears to be a different [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] examples of potentially aberrant behaviour are revealed by (say) the hackings scandals or the travails of banks, we do not know how common ethical problems are. The issue of legal risk appears to be a different [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Banking lawyers: agents of aggression and complexity? by Managing Behaviour Change: Ethics and Risk &#124; Lawyer Watch</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/banking-lawyers-agents-of-aggression-and-complexity/#comment-5494</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Managing Behaviour Change: Ethics and Risk &#124; Lawyer Watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 09:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] that examples of potentially aberrant behaviour are revealed by (say) the hackings scandals or the travails of banks, we do not know how common ethical problems are. The issue of legal risk appears to be a different [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] that examples of potentially aberrant behaviour are revealed by (say) the hackings scandals or the travails of banks, we do not know how common ethical problems are. The issue of legal risk appears to be a different [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we can’t keep them out of the court room… by James Swede</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/if-we-cant-keep-them-out-of-the-court-room/#comment-5446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Swede]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 13:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It really is now imperative that the courts get a grip on litigants in person - there are many who genuinely start a case not knowing that process is important. Once they have been alerted to the rules and the fact they can access them online, save for very technical areas, the court should adopt the view that there is deliberate game p-laying going on if one or both parties continue to plead ignorance. As you suggest, we possibly need compulsory mediation in some if not most types of cases also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is now imperative that the courts get a grip on litigants in person &#8211; there are many who genuinely start a case not knowing that process is important. Once they have been alerted to the rules and the fact they can access them online, save for very technical areas, the court should adopt the view that there is deliberate game p-laying going on if one or both parties continue to plead ignorance. As you suggest, we possibly need compulsory mediation in some if not most types of cases also.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Legal Aid Cuts: Some Thoughts by Legal Aid Reforms &#8211; two important blog posts well worth reading &#124; Charon QC</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/legal-aid-cuts-some-thoughts/#comment-5409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legal Aid Reforms &#8211; two important blog posts well worth reading &#124; Charon QC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] See also Professor Richard Moorhead&#8217;s detailed post &#8211; drawing attention to Roger Smith&#8217;s article on the subject: Legal Aid Cuts: Some Thoughts [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See also Professor Richard Moorhead&#8217;s detailed post &#8211; drawing attention to Roger Smith&#8217;s article on the subject: Legal Aid Cuts: Some Thoughts [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good law, and the Peoples’ Halsbury by Law and Media Round Up – 22 April 2013 &#124; Inforrm&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/good-law-and-the-peoples-halsbury/#comment-5399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Law and Media Round Up – 22 April 2013 &#124; Inforrm&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Professor Richard Moorhead: Good law, and the Peoples’ Halsbury [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Good law, and the Peoples’ Halsbury by Literate computing and accessible legislation &#124; ilegality</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/good-law-and-the-peoples-halsbury/#comment-5395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Literate computing and accessible legislation &#124; ilegality]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] read an interesting article by Richard Moorhead a couple of days ago: Good Law, and the peoples&#8217; Halsbury. It got me thinking how legislation could be made more accessible, more &#8216;applicable&#8217; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read an interesting article by Richard Moorhead a couple of days ago: Good Law, and the peoples&#8217; Halsbury. It got me thinking how legislation could be made more accessible, more &#8216;applicable&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Legal Aid – System Failure or Broken Law? by Good law, and the Peoples’ Halsbury &#124; Lawyer Watch</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/legal-aid-%e2%80%93-system-failure-or-broken-law/#comment-5386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Good law, and the Peoples’ Halsbury &#124; Lawyer Watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Guardian are hosting an online debate at 12 noon today (Friday). The extent to which simplification is possible and desirable is, of course, a matter for debate; and a debate which will have to encompass the sometimes counter-productive approach of common law decision making; but the prize for any progress on the initiative is improved in efficiency, effectiveness and access to justice (see here for my previous thoughts on that subject). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Guardian are hosting an online debate at 12 noon today (Friday). The extent to which simplification is possible and desirable is, of course, a matter for debate; and a debate which will have to encompass the sometimes counter-productive approach of common law decision making; but the prize for any progress on the initiative is improved in efficiency, effectiveness and access to justice (see here for my previous thoughts on that subject). [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Judging? Poetry, innit by jtownend</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/judging-poetry-innit/#comment-5381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jtownend]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wonderful. The quote he is inspired by in the Appellant&#039;s written submission (par 4)  is attributed to Mark Twain:
&lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn&#039;t do, than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor, catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Wikiquote [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Twain] seems unsure of the origin - I wonder if a Twain scholar might drop by and let us know either way...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wonderful. The quote he is inspired by in the Appellant&#8217;s written submission (par 4)  is attributed to Mark Twain:</p>
<blockquote><p> &#8220;Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn&#8217;t do, than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor, catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Wikiquote [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Twain] seems unsure of the origin &#8211; I wonder if a Twain scholar might drop by and let us know either way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Judging? Poetry, innit by Rich Greenhill (@RichGreenhill)</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/judging-poetry-innit/#comment-5379</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Greenhill (@RichGreenhill)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Delightful! Not merely blank verse - arrange the lines suitably, and it even rhymes. We can only hope that the Court of Appeal&#039;s loss is operetta&#039;s gain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delightful! Not merely blank verse &#8211; arrange the lines suitably, and it even rhymes. We can only hope that the Court of Appeal&#8217;s loss is operetta&#8217;s gain.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Access to Justice and ABS: Salvation on its way? by RAB</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/access-to-justice-and-abs-salvation-on-its-way/#comment-5362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RAB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You clearly do not have a clue what you are talking about. Many many people in Legal Aid see it as a vocation. You probably sneer at welfare benefits lawyers when the judiciary recognise that this is area is among the most complex one can practise in. Your is a tired ill informed trope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You clearly do not have a clue what you are talking about. Many many people in Legal Aid see it as a vocation. You probably sneer at welfare benefits lawyers when the judiciary recognise that this is area is among the most complex one can practise in. Your is a tired ill informed trope.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we can’t keep them out of the court room… by Could a UK version of Rechtwijzer improve the administration of justice? &#124; Lexis Nexis</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/if-we-cant-keep-them-out-of-the-court-room/#comment-5332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Could a UK version of Rechtwijzer improve the administration of justice? &#124; Lexis Nexis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Richard Moorhead and Roger Smith have both written blogs about this issue and Roger Smith also reviewed the Dutch government’s “Legal Aid Board” website, Rechtwijzer, which is designed to help litigants through a number of disputes including consumer and relationship breakup. A Roger says: “The site has been established within the context of overall Dutch policy on the resolution of disputes. This is to encourage self-help and mediated settlement in preference to recourse to lawyers and the courts.” [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Richard Moorhead and Roger Smith have both written blogs about this issue and Roger Smith also reviewed the Dutch government’s “Legal Aid Board” website, Rechtwijzer, which is designed to help litigants through a number of disputes including consumer and relationship breakup. A Roger says: “The site has been established within the context of overall Dutch policy on the resolution of disputes. This is to encourage self-help and mediated settlement in preference to recourse to lawyers and the courts.” [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Employment Tribunals: Weighted Against Employers? by David Atherton</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/employment-tribunals-weighted-against-employers/#comment-5330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Atherton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a employer for over 20 years, I see an essential cultural problem. Terminations are by necessity always instant and therefore shocking. People are always surprised, feel betrayed, and are very upset about their loss of income and have time to nurse a grievance. (People going straight to a new job, or in receipt of severance pay rarely claim.) So the instant reaction is to hit back rather than negotiate. Their feeling of betrayal also changes their opinion of the employer from reasonable to unreasonable, and they usually cut off informal channels of resolution.

ACAS do help, but many employees have never been in this situation before, and do not know how to go about opening negotiations. So as an employer, the staff handbook should contain a &#039;what if I get sacked&#039; section.

I have found that regular no-holds-barred open appraisals help enormously, but of course some employers find this very unpleasant work. A failing employee should be asked if they agree with the negative aspects of their appraisal, which must be quite specific. Do they have trouble with their training, do they have external welfare issues? Are they in the wrong job? Do they have any grievances?

People are your most important and usually most expensive investment, so just as you maintain equipment, you should maintain staff. If it gets to tribunal, most cases will cost a winning employer as much in legal fees as if they had settled informally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a employer for over 20 years, I see an essential cultural problem. Terminations are by necessity always instant and therefore shocking. People are always surprised, feel betrayed, and are very upset about their loss of income and have time to nurse a grievance. (People going straight to a new job, or in receipt of severance pay rarely claim.) So the instant reaction is to hit back rather than negotiate. Their feeling of betrayal also changes their opinion of the employer from reasonable to unreasonable, and they usually cut off informal channels of resolution.</p>
<p>ACAS do help, but many employees have never been in this situation before, and do not know how to go about opening negotiations. So as an employer, the staff handbook should contain a &#8216;what if I get sacked&#8217; section.</p>
<p>I have found that regular no-holds-barred open appraisals help enormously, but of course some employers find this very unpleasant work. A failing employee should be asked if they agree with the negative aspects of their appraisal, which must be quite specific. Do they have trouble with their training, do they have external welfare issues? Are they in the wrong job? Do they have any grievances?</p>
<p>People are your most important and usually most expensive investment, so just as you maintain equipment, you should maintain staff. If it gets to tribunal, most cases will cost a winning employer as much in legal fees as if they had settled informally.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we can’t keep them out of the court room… by Susie</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/if-we-cant-keep-them-out-of-the-court-room/#comment-5318</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trial judge instead of wasting his time trying to get the LIPs into mediation should have made decisions so the parties knew where they stood early on and could get on with it. It is the continual dithering and putting off of hard decisions that causes delays whether the parties are represented or not. The courts are too slow in making decisions, wholly incompetent in enforcing them and as a result parties have to return to court time and time again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trial judge instead of wasting his time trying to get the LIPs into mediation should have made decisions so the parties knew where they stood early on and could get on with it. It is the continual dithering and putting off of hard decisions that causes delays whether the parties are represented or not. The courts are too slow in making decisions, wholly incompetent in enforcing them and as a result parties have to return to court time and time again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bar Barometers, Aptitude Tests and THOSE numbers by Aptitude Tests vs Attitude Tests &#124;</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/bar-barometers-aptitude-tests-and-those-numbers/#comment-5304</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aptitude Tests vs Attitude Tests &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] testing’s high profile it was being considered for the legal profession. Here&#8217;s what Richard Moorhead Research and Commentary on the Legal Profession had to say when he explored aptitude [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] testing’s high profile it was being considered for the legal profession. Here&#8217;s what Richard Moorhead Research and Commentary on the Legal Profession had to say when he explored aptitude [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reasonable Excuse: Opining on Tax Avoidance by Michael Reed</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/reasonable-excuse-opining-on-tax-avoidance/#comment-4944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My (limited experience) is that barristers (include the tax bar) usually set out in their opinions a) the facts on which they&#039;ve been asked to advise and b) what they&#039;re not advising on.

This is important, because, inevitably in this sort of advisory work, they rely on what their clients tell them and some of the relevant considerations are outside their expertise. For example, it may be highly relevant to the tax on a particular transaction whether the Spanish property being purchased is being bought at the market price. A London based Tax Barrister isn&#039;t going to have any idea about the market price of a piece of Spanish property, so they can&#039;t sensibly advise about that. 

Instead they&#039;ll say something like &#039;You have told me that this property will be purchased at €5 million. If this is a market price the tax will be X, if not, the tax will be Y. I cannot advise you about the market price of Spanish property. You may want to take advice from a property assessor, who can give you an expert view.&#039;

This sort of thing, it seems to me, is what Aiden James is talking about towards the end of his answers. A QC may have said that a scheme works in theory, but this is obviously meaningless if it hasn&#039;t been implemented in the right way.  Aiden has doubts about the way in which it&#039;s been implemented, so he doesn&#039;t advise his clients to use it. 

Has the QC done anything wrong there? Presumably, she has been asked a legal question and given the answer. She hasn&#039;t answered another question, which she hasn&#039;t been asked. Aiden isn&#039;t doubting her advice -- he&#039;s doubting what whoever is running the scheme did after her advice.

I can certainly see that this can raise ethical issues. Maybe the QC should insist on giving wider advice, not limited to the questions asked. I suppose there might be circumstances where this might be the case, where, for example, it&#039;s clear that the QC is being asked an artificially constricted question with the intention to use the answer to mislead. But I&#039;d have thought it would be rare that any lawyer could tell a client wanting advice on one aspect of a matter that they would have to insist on being instructed on a wider (and therefore more expensive) basis.

The questioning, but not I think the answers, seem to suggest something else. That the information being given to the QC is being deliberately restricted in order to get the right answer on the question being asked. 

This is potentially an issue for the lawyer. Certainly, if they&#039;re deliberately not asking relevant questions because they don&#039;t want to know the answer, that may be a serious conduct issue. But that&#039;s an serious accusation to make and there isn&#039;t any evidence that it&#039;s happening.

The alternative is that the QC is asking the right questions, but being mislead by the client. If that&#039;s the case, I&#039;m not sure what they&#039;re expected to do. They can, and I suspect do, ask the client if they&#039;re sure or suggest that what they&#039;re saying sounds a bit implausible. And warn them that, if the facts on which they&#039;re advising aren&#039;t right, their advice is useless.

But should they refuse to advise if they suspect, but don&#039;t know, that the client is lying to them? Should they investigate the client&#039;s account? And, if they should investigate, how? Any of that would require a pretty fundamental re-write of the Code of Conduct. 

In any event, I&#039;m not sure that there is any evidence that clients are lying to their tax advisers in order to get the right advice either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My (limited experience) is that barristers (include the tax bar) usually set out in their opinions a) the facts on which they&#8217;ve been asked to advise and b) what they&#8217;re not advising on.</p>
<p>This is important, because, inevitably in this sort of advisory work, they rely on what their clients tell them and some of the relevant considerations are outside their expertise. For example, it may be highly relevant to the tax on a particular transaction whether the Spanish property being purchased is being bought at the market price. A London based Tax Barrister isn&#8217;t going to have any idea about the market price of a piece of Spanish property, so they can&#8217;t sensibly advise about that. </p>
<p>Instead they&#8217;ll say something like &#8216;You have told me that this property will be purchased at €5 million. If this is a market price the tax will be X, if not, the tax will be Y. I cannot advise you about the market price of Spanish property. You may want to take advice from a property assessor, who can give you an expert view.&#8217;</p>
<p>This sort of thing, it seems to me, is what Aiden James is talking about towards the end of his answers. A QC may have said that a scheme works in theory, but this is obviously meaningless if it hasn&#8217;t been implemented in the right way.  Aiden has doubts about the way in which it&#8217;s been implemented, so he doesn&#8217;t advise his clients to use it. </p>
<p>Has the QC done anything wrong there? Presumably, she has been asked a legal question and given the answer. She hasn&#8217;t answered another question, which she hasn&#8217;t been asked. Aiden isn&#8217;t doubting her advice &#8212; he&#8217;s doubting what whoever is running the scheme did after her advice.</p>
<p>I can certainly see that this can raise ethical issues. Maybe the QC should insist on giving wider advice, not limited to the questions asked. I suppose there might be circumstances where this might be the case, where, for example, it&#8217;s clear that the QC is being asked an artificially constricted question with the intention to use the answer to mislead. But I&#8217;d have thought it would be rare that any lawyer could tell a client wanting advice on one aspect of a matter that they would have to insist on being instructed on a wider (and therefore more expensive) basis.</p>
<p>The questioning, but not I think the answers, seem to suggest something else. That the information being given to the QC is being deliberately restricted in order to get the right answer on the question being asked. </p>
<p>This is potentially an issue for the lawyer. Certainly, if they&#8217;re deliberately not asking relevant questions because they don&#8217;t want to know the answer, that may be a serious conduct issue. But that&#8217;s an serious accusation to make and there isn&#8217;t any evidence that it&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>The alternative is that the QC is asking the right questions, but being mislead by the client. If that&#8217;s the case, I&#8217;m not sure what they&#8217;re expected to do. They can, and I suspect do, ask the client if they&#8217;re sure or suggest that what they&#8217;re saying sounds a bit implausible. And warn them that, if the facts on which they&#8217;re advising aren&#8217;t right, their advice is useless.</p>
<p>But should they refuse to advise if they suspect, but don&#8217;t know, that the client is lying to them? Should they investigate the client&#8217;s account? And, if they should investigate, how? Any of that would require a pretty fundamental re-write of the Code of Conduct. </p>
<p>In any event, I&#8217;m not sure that there is any evidence that clients are lying to their tax advisers in order to get the right advice either.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why have actors - a film of the court process would be far more reproducable]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why have actors &#8211; a film of the court process would be far more reproducable</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the trouble with juries, juries? by Richard Moorhead</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, there&#039;s quite a few things that can be done along those lines.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to agree with the Moorhead view that the stupid questions may well reflect problems with just one or two of the jurors. That is borne of my wife&#039;s  recent experience as a juror. She is a very experienced and senior lay magistrate and her jury had similar problems with one or two members who simply could not or would not decide the case on the evidence, but in the end there were enough able to agree to deliver a majority verdict]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with the Moorhead view that the stupid questions may well reflect problems with just one or two of the jurors. That is borne of my wife&#8217;s  recent experience as a juror. She is a very experienced and senior lay magistrate and her jury had similar problems with one or two members who simply could not or would not decide the case on the evidence, but in the end there were enough able to agree to deliver a majority verdict</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the trouble with juries, juries? by Clare</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an interesting question and I asked myself many questions when on jury service. As chair I had to field and frame questions on behalf of the others and put them to the judge when asking for clarification. It was a couple of people (who had limited English) who insisted on asking again and again what something meant. I was equipped with the patience and desire to help them understand, repeatedly reading out notes and explaining what things meant - I&#039;m talking dictionary definitions of ordinary words. Should there be a trained &#039;bystander&#039; to sit with juries and ensure they understand stuff? I worried about this a lot after I finished my week on a trial. 

As someone who is absolutely careful, ethical and of reasonable (!) intelligence it worries me that jurors on complex trials do not understand things. Ultimately you&#039;re making decisions about peoples&#039; lives and spending tax payers money. 

However - for that time in court you are absolutely focused on the evidence. You are intensely debating the questions that the judge asks you to look at so you are very much obsessed with the material before you. I&#039;d like to think that they had really thought about the matters in hand. Of course you need someone in the room that is going to bring people back on track if someone has gone off at a tangent. This happens. The chair has to say, no, these are the only items we need to discuss. No speculation, just the facts. The only way I could think of doing this was a professional reasonable person to decide when the jury is off track. But that sort of defeats the object of juries.

Ramblings of a confused ex-juror...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting question and I asked myself many questions when on jury service. As chair I had to field and frame questions on behalf of the others and put them to the judge when asking for clarification. It was a couple of people (who had limited English) who insisted on asking again and again what something meant. I was equipped with the patience and desire to help them understand, repeatedly reading out notes and explaining what things meant &#8211; I&#8217;m talking dictionary definitions of ordinary words. Should there be a trained &#8216;bystander&#8217; to sit with juries and ensure they understand stuff? I worried about this a lot after I finished my week on a trial. </p>
<p>As someone who is absolutely careful, ethical and of reasonable (!) intelligence it worries me that jurors on complex trials do not understand things. Ultimately you&#8217;re making decisions about peoples&#8217; lives and spending tax payers money. </p>
<p>However &#8211; for that time in court you are absolutely focused on the evidence. You are intensely debating the questions that the judge asks you to look at so you are very much obsessed with the material before you. I&#8217;d like to think that they had really thought about the matters in hand. Of course you need someone in the room that is going to bring people back on track if someone has gone off at a tangent. This happens. The chair has to say, no, these are the only items we need to discuss. No speculation, just the facts. The only way I could think of doing this was a professional reasonable person to decide when the jury is off track. But that sort of defeats the object of juries.</p>
<p>Ramblings of a confused ex-juror&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David J Mudkips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given your comments, would it be possible  to set up an  experiment where (aside from differing jury makeup), the only variable was the wording of the judge&#039;s instruction?  Real judge, real lawyers, actors as witnesses/defendants,  playing out the same case the same way every time?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given your comments, would it be possible  to set up an  experiment where (aside from differing jury makeup), the only variable was the wording of the judge&#8217;s instruction?  Real judge, real lawyers, actors as witnesses/defendants,  playing out the same case the same way every time?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is the trouble with juries, juries? by Anonymous (name supplied)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having been wrongly convicted of something I am innocent of, I have first hand experience of how stupefyingly dense some juries are. It&#039;s hardly surprising, considering the pondlife juries are drawn from.
In my own case, they blatantly ignored the fact that the accuser couldn&#039;t name a date, time, place or in fact any corroborating facts. There was no where, when, how, or why. Just a who.
And even when they were caught lying in court, the jury ignored it, and found me guilty (!)
This recent debacle only highlights what I&#039;ve been saying for the last seven years - the weak link in the justice system is the jury.
They are often unable to put two cohesive thoughts together, and often enter the court with their own preconceived biases.
What is needed, in my opinion, is a professional jury, drawn from intelligent and legally-minded people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been wrongly convicted of something I am innocent of, I have first hand experience of how stupefyingly dense some juries are. It&#8217;s hardly surprising, considering the pondlife juries are drawn from.<br />
In my own case, they blatantly ignored the fact that the accuser couldn&#8217;t name a date, time, place or in fact any corroborating facts. There was no where, when, how, or why. Just a who.<br />
And even when they were caught lying in court, the jury ignored it, and found me guilty (!)<br />
This recent debacle only highlights what I&#8217;ve been saying for the last seven years &#8211; the weak link in the justice system is the jury.<br />
They are often unable to put two cohesive thoughts together, and often enter the court with their own preconceived biases.<br />
What is needed, in my opinion, is a professional jury, drawn from intelligent and legally-minded people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Putting your case: a follow up by Richard Moorhead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Moorhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Francis.  I&#039;m not criticising juries and even less am I advocating something other than jury trial.  It&#039;s your claim that, &quot;  A sincere and outraged denial can speak volumes about the witness’s credibility,&quot; that is the sort of thing that I am taking aim at as folkish (in as gentle a way as I can muster).   A blunter way of putting what I was saying in my first post was, [some of] our ideas about credibility may be built on sand.  Where that leaves us, I am not sure, but it does raise questions about the point at which restraint in cross-examination should be shown.  As, I think we both agree, this may be about the how of questioning not the what questioning should be about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Francis.  I&#8217;m not criticising juries and even less am I advocating something other than jury trial.  It&#8217;s your claim that, &#8221;  A sincere and outraged denial can speak volumes about the witness’s credibility,&#8221; that is the sort of thing that I am taking aim at as folkish (in as gentle a way as I can muster).   A blunter way of putting what I was saying in my first post was, [some of] our ideas about credibility may be built on sand.  Where that leaves us, I am not sure, but it does raise questions about the point at which restraint in cross-examination should be shown.  As, I think we both agree, this may be about the how of questioning not the what questioning should be about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Putting your case: a follow up by Francis FitzGibbon QC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis FitzGibbon QC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for picking this up. Of course it&#039;s not always easy to tell when you&#039;re being lied to, in Court or anywhere. The Aitken case shows that you need something solid and independent to nail a lie (though his overdone rhetoric wd certainly have rung alarm bells for me - doth protest too much). What if it really is just word v word? I&#039;m confident that between them, a group of twelve individuals are likely to offer a better assessment than just one person, because of the different life-experiences they bring to the process. To call the jury&#039;s work &#039;folkish&#039; is ambiguous: in a strong sense, of course it&#039;s folkish - we trust the non-specialist public to make difficult decisions, and they give the process legitimacy. The value of the jury is its folkishness in that sense. But I detect a criticism, that the jury lacks expertise when it comes to understanding mental states and representations of those states in words. To which my answer is: who should we trust to have a better understanding and therefore a better ability to make the decisions that we give to juries?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for picking this up. Of course it&#8217;s not always easy to tell when you&#8217;re being lied to, in Court or anywhere. The Aitken case shows that you need something solid and independent to nail a lie (though his overdone rhetoric wd certainly have rung alarm bells for me &#8211; doth protest too much). What if it really is just word v word? I&#8217;m confident that between them, a group of twelve individuals are likely to offer a better assessment than just one person, because of the different life-experiences they bring to the process. To call the jury&#8217;s work &#8216;folkish&#8217; is ambiguous: in a strong sense, of course it&#8217;s folkish &#8211; we trust the non-specialist public to make difficult decisions, and they give the process legitimacy. The value of the jury is its folkishness in that sense. But I detect a criticism, that the jury lacks expertise when it comes to understanding mental states and representations of those states in words. To which my answer is: who should we trust to have a better understanding and therefore a better ability to make the decisions that we give to juries?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to TST-yes, and asking a woman if she is a &#039;fantasist&#039; -and not just a liar-plays into these myths and prejudices in a fairly unpleasant way. Could I just draw attention to the work of Ellison and Munro on these issues and reform suggestions (Ellison is at the School of Law, Leeds whilst Munro is at Nottingham)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to TST-yes, and asking a woman if she is a &#8216;fantasist&#8217; -and not just a liar-plays into these myths and prejudices in a fairly unpleasant way. Could I just draw attention to the work of Ellison and Munro on these issues and reform suggestions (Ellison is at the School of Law, Leeds whilst Munro is at Nottingham)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liberté, égalité, fraternité: Professional Principles en France by End Of The Day Round-Up &#124; Legal Cheek</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Nick Diable</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Diable]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one thing I&#039;ve yet to hear from anyone is a suggestion about what system we use in place of the current one.  Even in Europe criminal trials are adversarial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing I&#8217;ve yet to hear from anyone is a suggestion about what system we use in place of the current one.  Even in Europe criminal trials are adversarial.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite the reassurances by members of the profession and the judge that the adversarial system has worked as it should in this case, there is understandable public concern. Vulnerable witnesses are not a new challege for the system and the outcome is not one that  the public is likely to consider as an indicator of a system that is fit for purpose. Barristers do owe other duties than to their clients and the Court. No lawyer may deceive or lie to a third party, including a witness. Lawyers may not demean or humiliate witnesses. All lawyers are required to be independent of their clients. From these duties, in other parts of the world  efforts are being made to foster the belief that witnesses also have rights. There is no reason why we should not do so also. For example where a lawyer repeatedly tell a witness that they are a liar rather than the more eliptical &#039; I put it to you that you are a liar&#039;  it might be argued that the lawyer risks giving the appearance that this is his viewpoint as well as his client&#039;s. This could be an indication of insufficient independence from one&#039;s client. 
 Defence lawyers will probably say that their job is difficult enough. This case is an indicator , however, that we are still not doing enough to protect witenesses. The adversarial system relies on witnesses being willing to come forward. Particiapting as a lay witness ( as opposed to expert witness ) is rarely a pleasant experience without the adversarial system making it a much worse one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the reassurances by members of the profession and the judge that the adversarial system has worked as it should in this case, there is understandable public concern. Vulnerable witnesses are not a new challege for the system and the outcome is not one that  the public is likely to consider as an indicator of a system that is fit for purpose. Barristers do owe other duties than to their clients and the Court. No lawyer may deceive or lie to a third party, including a witness. Lawyers may not demean or humiliate witnesses. All lawyers are required to be independent of their clients. From these duties, in other parts of the world  efforts are being made to foster the belief that witnesses also have rights. There is no reason why we should not do so also. For example where a lawyer repeatedly tell a witness that they are a liar rather than the more eliptical &#8216; I put it to you that you are a liar&#8217;  it might be argued that the lawyer risks giving the appearance that this is his viewpoint as well as his client&#8217;s. This could be an indication of insufficient independence from one&#8217;s client.<br />
 Defence lawyers will probably say that their job is difficult enough. This case is an indicator , however, that we are still not doing enough to protect witenesses. The adversarial system relies on witnesses being willing to come forward. Particiapting as a lay witness ( as opposed to expert witness ) is rarely a pleasant experience without the adversarial system making it a much worse one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by TST</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TST]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, there is much research that reveals that as a society attitudes are often swayed by pre-existing negative myths and stereotypes around rape and rape victims (smith &amp; Frieze 2003, McMillan &amp; Thomas 2009, Boher et al 2009, Moor &amp; Farchi 2010, Grub &amp; Tarn 2011) that lower empathy towards victims, and therefore expert evidence may be useful in presenting the range of different behaviours that a victim might display.   However, I would go further and suggest that because of the complexities of such cases specialist courts should be introduced as in domestic violence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, there is much research that reveals that as a society attitudes are often swayed by pre-existing negative myths and stereotypes around rape and rape victims (smith &amp; Frieze 2003, McMillan &amp; Thomas 2009, Boher et al 2009, Moor &amp; Farchi 2010, Grub &amp; Tarn 2011) that lower empathy towards victims, and therefore expert evidence may be useful in presenting the range of different behaviours that a victim might display.   However, I would go further and suggest that because of the complexities of such cases specialist courts should be introduced as in domestic violence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Simon Myerson QC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Myerson QC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two points, if I may.

First, as I understand it, the accused was acquitted of the rape. That seems to suggest that, in respect of that charge, the jury were unsure, even though they convicted of the sexual assaults. It is, of course, impossible to know why they did so. But it does seem to indicate that the system worked robustly enough to permit the jury to discriminate between the different allegations and, as a result, a man was acquitted of a serious charge. Whilst the death of a vulnerable person - linked to the trial process or not - is always a matter of regret, it must be the case that so too is the conviction of an innocent man. 

Secondly, it is now common ground that women who are raped do not behave as we would instinctively expect them to behave, or as they would expect to behave. The expert consensus is that human reactions to fear can lead to a submissive presentation, the aim being to preserve bodily health. Rape victims are frequently left distressed and perplexed by their own behaviour. It may be time for the Courts to permit evidence of such reactions, in much the way that other expert evidence is permitted. It would be difficult, because it would still have to be left to a jury to say whether that reaction was present in a particular case, but it may be an important tool to assist the jury to determine the truth. Given the jury&#039;s verdict, it is impossible to say that this would have made a difference in this case and I do not make any such suggestion. Rather, if we are focussing on potential changes, this may be one to consider.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points, if I may.</p>
<p>First, as I understand it, the accused was acquitted of the rape. That seems to suggest that, in respect of that charge, the jury were unsure, even though they convicted of the sexual assaults. It is, of course, impossible to know why they did so. But it does seem to indicate that the system worked robustly enough to permit the jury to discriminate between the different allegations and, as a result, a man was acquitted of a serious charge. Whilst the death of a vulnerable person &#8211; linked to the trial process or not &#8211; is always a matter of regret, it must be the case that so too is the conviction of an innocent man. </p>
<p>Secondly, it is now common ground that women who are raped do not behave as we would instinctively expect them to behave, or as they would expect to behave. The expert consensus is that human reactions to fear can lead to a submissive presentation, the aim being to preserve bodily health. Rape victims are frequently left distressed and perplexed by their own behaviour. It may be time for the Courts to permit evidence of such reactions, in much the way that other expert evidence is permitted. It would be difficult, because it would still have to be left to a jury to say whether that reaction was present in a particular case, but it may be an important tool to assist the jury to determine the truth. Given the jury&#8217;s verdict, it is impossible to say that this would have made a difference in this case and I do not make any such suggestion. Rather, if we are focussing on potential changes, this may be one to consider.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Liberté, égalité, fraternité: Professional Principles en France &#124; Lawyer Watch</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/adversarial-anxieties-lets-not-stop-asking-questions/#comment-4545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liberté, égalité, fraternité: Professional Principles en France &#124; Lawyer Watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Morning Round-Up: Monday 11 February &#124; Legal Cheek</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Nic Maurer</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/adversarial-anxieties-lets-not-stop-asking-questions/#comment-4532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nic Maurer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Our Courts should also be taking account of the potential for cross examination to provoke flashbacks or trigger post traumatic stress disorder.&quot;
That is, unfortunately, the price you pay for testifying in court. No one forces you to. But to make an omelette you have to break an egg.
You could have a Statement of Fact, which would save testifying, but a defendant has every right to contest it - and force you to testify - if they dispute the accusation.
Sadly, there is no way to avoid testifying if you want to give your evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our Courts should also be taking account of the potential for cross examination to provoke flashbacks or trigger post traumatic stress disorder.&#8221;<br />
That is, unfortunately, the price you pay for testifying in court. No one forces you to. But to make an omelette you have to break an egg.<br />
You could have a Statement of Fact, which would save testifying, but a defendant has every right to contest it &#8211; and force you to testify &#8211; if they dispute the accusation.<br />
Sadly, there is no way to avoid testifying if you want to give your evidence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Nic Maurer</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/adversarial-anxieties-lets-not-stop-asking-questions/#comment-4531</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nic Maurer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is also acknowledged that one of the most important issues for a DEFENDANT is being believed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also acknowledged that one of the most important issues for a DEFENDANT is being believed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by TST</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/adversarial-anxieties-lets-not-stop-asking-questions/#comment-4530</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TST]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our Courts should also be taking account of the potential for cross examination to provoke flashbacks or trigger post traumatic stress disorder.    The links between sexual abuse and PTSD or Complex PTSD are well established.  It is also acknowledged that one of the most important issues for a victim is being believed.  This is why being called a &#039;fantasist&#039; has such a toxic impact on victims.   Where is the evidence that calling a victim such names ensure justice?
This is why cross examination of victims needs to be reconsidered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Courts should also be taking account of the potential for cross examination to provoke flashbacks or trigger post traumatic stress disorder.    The links between sexual abuse and PTSD or Complex PTSD are well established.  It is also acknowledged that one of the most important issues for a victim is being believed.  This is why being called a &#8216;fantasist&#8217; has such a toxic impact on victims.   Where is the evidence that calling a victim such names ensure justice?<br />
This is why cross examination of victims needs to be reconsidered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Anonymous (name supplied)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Victims already have a modicum of rights. However, taking their word as gospel should not be one of them.
There are too many liars out there.

The question raised in this case is not that the victim was questioned harshly, but come on, how deluded/ill-informed was she? Commonsense tells you she only had to sit in on a rape trial herself to see how the line of questioning goes, even if the PLO failed to explain it to her.
So she was called a liar and a fantasist. So what? I&#039;ve been called a paedophile, which is FAR FAR worse, even more so when you&#039;re innocent, yet I haven&#039;t killed myself.

I also question the logic of bringing a case in which the sole complainant is so fragile. 
The case should have been shelved until such time as she was a stronger person, or had had more information to hand so that this wouldn&#039;t have come as the huge shock it did, or should have depended also on the testimony of the other victims in this case.
Blaming the Barrister or the questioning is a knee-jerk reaction, not a logical one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victims already have a modicum of rights. However, taking their word as gospel should not be one of them.<br />
There are too many liars out there.</p>
<p>The question raised in this case is not that the victim was questioned harshly, but come on, how deluded/ill-informed was she? Commonsense tells you she only had to sit in on a rape trial herself to see how the line of questioning goes, even if the PLO failed to explain it to her.<br />
So she was called a liar and a fantasist. So what? I&#8217;ve been called a paedophile, which is FAR FAR worse, even more so when you&#8217;re innocent, yet I haven&#8217;t killed myself.</p>
<p>I also question the logic of bringing a case in which the sole complainant is so fragile.<br />
The case should have been shelved until such time as she was a stronger person, or had had more information to hand so that this wouldn&#8217;t have come as the huge shock it did, or should have depended also on the testimony of the other victims in this case.<br />
Blaming the Barrister or the questioning is a knee-jerk reaction, not a logical one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s the story with solicitors&#8217; complaints and LeO? by fitForPurpose</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A freedom for information act request of the SRA revealed that in 2009, 90% of complaints about solicitors were not upheld and in fact only 2% got as far as an SDT. Perhaps the public have just given up complaining about solicitors if there is a 98% chance that their complaint will not end in a penalty for the solicitor? I am blogging about my experiences with the SRA at http://thomasEggarSRAcomplaint.blogspot.co.uk/ as file a complaint with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A freedom for information act request of the SRA revealed that in 2009, 90% of complaints about solicitors were not upheld and in fact only 2% got as far as an SDT. Perhaps the public have just given up complaining about solicitors if there is a 98% chance that their complaint will not end in a penalty for the solicitor? I am blogging about my experiences with the SRA at <a href="http://thomasEggarSRAcomplaint.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://thomasEggarSRAcomplaint.blogspot.co.uk/</a> as file a complaint with them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Irvin Waller</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/adversarial-anxieties-lets-not-stop-asking-questions/#comment-4521</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irvin Waller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is time for UK justice, and particularly law teachers, to embrace a modicum of internationally recognized rights also for the victim.  A good start would be specification of those rights in legislation and legally aided representation in criminal courts to defend them.  See http://bit.ly/STvHrC]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time for UK justice, and particularly law teachers, to embrace a modicum of internationally recognized rights also for the victim.  A good start would be specification of those rights in legislation and legally aided representation in criminal courts to defend them.  See <a href="http://bit.ly/STvHrC" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/STvHrC</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Adversarial Anxieties: Let&#8217;s not stop asking questions by Anonymous (name supplied)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Prisoners who protest innocence and commit suicide in prison rarely have the luxury of being labelled innocent.&quot;

I would add that I&#039;ve been through the justice system, and found it to be thoroughly wanting. Despite my accuser being caught lying in court on days 1 and 2, and shown to be lying, the jury disregarded the lack of evidence and convicted me of something I am innocent of, and it&#039;s destroyed my life as a result. I&#039;m only here because I have a good family, but it&#039;s not without also  relying heavily on psychiatrists and antidepressants.
The media in this country uses every single day to publish reports and nurture bad feeling towards anyone unlucky enough to be accused of any sort of sexual offence, to the point where it&#039;s virtually impossible to have a jury which doesn&#039;t consist of already-biased bigots.
As I found.
You cannot expect a just trial if the jury merely disregard the evidence and adjudge with their preconceptions.
The entire system needs an overhaul, not just for the victims, but for everyone. It&#039;s not just accusers who accord the title &quot;victims&quot; of this farce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Prisoners who protest innocence and commit suicide in prison rarely have the luxury of being labelled innocent.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would add that I&#8217;ve been through the justice system, and found it to be thoroughly wanting. Despite my accuser being caught lying in court on days 1 and 2, and shown to be lying, the jury disregarded the lack of evidence and convicted me of something I am innocent of, and it&#8217;s destroyed my life as a result. I&#8217;m only here because I have a good family, but it&#8217;s not without also  relying heavily on psychiatrists and antidepressants.<br />
The media in this country uses every single day to publish reports and nurture bad feeling towards anyone unlucky enough to be accused of any sort of sexual offence, to the point where it&#8217;s virtually impossible to have a jury which doesn&#8217;t consist of already-biased bigots.<br />
As I found.<br />
You cannot expect a just trial if the jury merely disregard the evidence and adjudge with their preconceptions.<br />
The entire system needs an overhaul, not just for the victims, but for everyone. It&#8217;s not just accusers who accord the title &#8220;victims&#8221; of this farce.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely nothing wrong with the adversarial system, nor that it was unfairly applied here.
Questioning an accuser&#039;s credibility and validity of the accusation is every defendant&#039;s right, especially when there is no shortage of &quot;victims&quot; willing to spout false accusations of rape or historic sexual offences, spurred on by the no-questions-asked compensation culture.

Sexual offences and historical sexual offences particularly, require virtually no burden of proof other than the &quot;victim&#039;s&quot; word, unlike just about every other offence on the lawbook.
So, continue questioning, probing and testing the complainant&#039;s validity.
I feel for this particular complainant, a lot more was going on to cause her to take her own life, as most don&#039;t.
And for the cries that she should have received counselling, that&#039;s what Victim Support are there for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely nothing wrong with the adversarial system, nor that it was unfairly applied here.<br />
Questioning an accuser&#8217;s credibility and validity of the accusation is every defendant&#8217;s right, especially when there is no shortage of &#8220;victims&#8221; willing to spout false accusations of rape or historic sexual offences, spurred on by the no-questions-asked compensation culture.</p>
<p>Sexual offences and historical sexual offences particularly, require virtually no burden of proof other than the &#8220;victim&#8217;s&#8221; word, unlike just about every other offence on the lawbook.<br />
So, continue questioning, probing and testing the complainant&#8217;s validity.<br />
I feel for this particular complainant, a lot more was going on to cause her to take her own life, as most don&#8217;t.<br />
And for the cries that she should have received counselling, that&#8217;s what Victim Support are there for.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curb your enthusiasm: time to act on finessing witness statements? by forcedadoption</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too often the contrary is the case in the family courts.Legal aid solicitors massacre the statements of parents wishing to oppose interim care orders ,striking out every instance showing that social workers have fabricated evidence ,made false promises,or misled the court.Anodyne acceptance of the care order with promises to &quot;behave better in future&quot; are substituted and hapless parents are forced to watch their children slide into the cesspool of &quot; care&quot; followed by forced adoption !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too often the contrary is the case in the family courts.Legal aid solicitors massacre the statements of parents wishing to oppose interim care orders ,striking out every instance showing that social workers have fabricated evidence ,made false promises,or misled the court.Anodyne acceptance of the care order with promises to &#8220;behave better in future&#8221; are substituted and hapless parents are forced to watch their children slide into the cesspool of &#8221; care&#8221; followed by forced adoption !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curb your enthusiasm: time to act on finessing witness statements? by Nicholas Wilson</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/curb-your-enthusiasm-time-to-act-on-finessing-witness-statements/#comment-4374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the practice will be far more widespread with the introduction of contingency fees where the solicitors have a vested interest in the outcome. It was for this very reason, the temptation to  suborn witnesses, that contingency fees were unlawful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the practice will be far more widespread with the introduction of contingency fees where the solicitors have a vested interest in the outcome. It was for this very reason, the temptation to  suborn witnesses, that contingency fees were unlawful.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] reminded immediately of Gloster J&#8217;s comments in the Abramovich-Berenovsky case about the polishing of evidence.  The tension between lawyers duty to the client and their duty uphold the rule of law and the [...]]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morning Round-Up: Tuesday 29 January &#124; Legal Cheek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Cab rank rules or bar room brawls? [Lawyer Watch] [...]]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest Blog : You&#8217;ve Changed &#124; The Red Files]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] time to time people are kind enough to publish my musings on their own accounts.  Click here for the one that I wrote for Professor Richard Moorhead for his blog: Lawyer [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Leveson: lawyers costs, press ethics and the case for an Ombudsman by ombudsmans61percent campaign</title>
		<link>http://lawyerwatch.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/leveson-lawyers-costs-press-ethics-and-the-case-for-an-ombudsman-2/#comment-3881</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what happens when the Ombudsman gets it wrong - something that happens with alarming regularity at OS:Property?
DJS&#039; Research showed that 61% of complainants thought that the Ombudsman&#039;s decision went against them in 2009-10.
DJS&#039; Research showed that 64% of complainants thought that the Ombudsman&#039;s decision went aginst them in 2010-11.
But in 2011-12, 0% of complainants thought that the Ombudsman&#039;s decision went against them.
How did that happen?
The OS:Property executives put the research contract out to tender, DJS Research didn&#039;t get the contract and the new company didn&#039;t ask complainants for their views on the &quot;service&quot; they&#039;d received at the hands of the Ombudsman.
OS:Property is a company set up by The RICS to investigate complaints made by the public against its Members. Their Ombudsman&#039;s decisions are often arrived at in an &quot;illogical manner.&quot; 
(DJS Research) Who regulates OS:Property? The RICS.
This is what happens when you privatise justice - you get no justice at all.
Ombudsmans61percent Campaign]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what happens when the Ombudsman gets it wrong &#8211; something that happens with alarming regularity at OS:Property?<br />
DJS&#8217; Research showed that 61% of complainants thought that the Ombudsman&#8217;s decision went against them in 2009-10.<br />
DJS&#8217; Research showed that 64% of complainants thought that the Ombudsman&#8217;s decision went aginst them in 2010-11.<br />
But in 2011-12, 0% of complainants thought that the Ombudsman&#8217;s decision went against them.<br />
How did that happen?<br />
The OS:Property executives put the research contract out to tender, DJS Research didn&#8217;t get the contract and the new company didn&#8217;t ask complainants for their views on the &#8220;service&#8221; they&#8217;d received at the hands of the Ombudsman.<br />
OS:Property is a company set up by The RICS to investigate complaints made by the public against its Members. Their Ombudsman&#8217;s decisions are often arrived at in an &#8220;illogical manner.&#8221;<br />
(DJS Research) Who regulates OS:Property? The RICS.<br />
This is what happens when you privatise justice &#8211; you get no justice at all.<br />
Ombudsmans61percent Campaign</p>
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